WHEN Tony Lockett was made an AFL Legend recently, he made a point of mentioning full-backs Stephen Silvagni and Ashley McIntosh in his most difficult opponents.

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However there was one defender who the greatest goal kicker in VFL/AFL history forgot to mention – his former skipper Danny Frawley.

In a rare interview, Lockett told Triple M on Saturday that although he was often at the other end of the field from his former St Kilda captain and fellow Ballarat product, he still had a great appreciation for his tenacity, skills and leadership.

“In the light of day there is no doubt that if you ask Jason Dunstall or Gary Ablett, they will tell you that Spud was up there with the very best of them,” Lockett said.

“I stood up the other end on many occasions and you (Danny Frawley) always acquitted yourself very admirably.”

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As part of Triple M’s Saturday Rub, Frawley was put under significant pressure to get Lockett on the show.

After a couple of false starts, Lockett picked up his phone and engaged in a fascinating interview.

A number of topics were covered, including the art of goal kicking, a subject Lockett has clear views on.

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“I do have my theories on it and they do seem to miss goals that they should be kicking,” he said.

“Really what it gets down to is that these blokes have too many things going on inside their head and not thinking about what they are doing.”

“I see the players counting steps and doing all these different things when it shouldn’t be rocket science. I think they are over-trained.”

The 1987 Brownlow Medallist booted 1360 goals in 281 games, including 898 for the Saints in 12 seasons.